2/21/2023 0 Comments James holden expanse![]() Jon 'ah dunt wunt it' Snow is another fine example. They're all different but essential and it isn't limited to sci-fi. They come in all flavours, from accidental or reluctant (Holden or Ripley) to brash, flamboyant, arrogant depictions like any Marvel film to Han Solo. The issue with it is just how far the "big damn hero" is pushed or portrayed. I think that is just an almost obligatory trope or staple to any kind of saga or story. Quote from: Riquende on August 10, 2022, 03:19:44 pm I didn't mind Miller at all, it's the pair of Holden and Naomi Nagata (to use the name she's referred as all the damn time) that stop me ranking this perfectly. I just found it started to slack off towards the end, clearly they thought they'd get enough time to explore that planet glimpsed in the final season. This might have been written better in the books, but I found it too jarring to have this random Belter captain suddenly having so much influence across Earth and especially Mars.īut I don't want to come across as too negative - it was a brilliant show that put a big thick slice of realism in the physics (up to a point). ![]() She constantly complained about everyone else's plans whilst offering nothing herself (and doing nothing wasn't an option), she unilaterally stole the hidden protomolecule, and through her we got to all the Marco Inaros stuff later in the show. Naomi Nagata was such a debbie downer in the first 2 seasons. Not all sci fi protagonists have to be big damn heroes, but there's got to be a middle ground? Holden I don't hate, but when I picture him in the show, he's slouched against a doorway, overalls around his waist, drinking a coffee. I didn't mind Miller at all, it's the pair of Holden and Naomi Nagata (to use the name she's referred as all the damn time) that stop me ranking this perfectly. On a side note i liked the easter egg of all the soldiers in the assault team that dropped to medina in cargo flotsam with amos and bobby had names from famous sci fi characters from Ripley to Mass Effect's Shepherd (they pull up a list and you can read them all on that), was a cool nod ![]() So yep, sad it's all done now but it really needed to get back to the protomolecule stuff or something of that ilk to capture the magic of first bunch of seasons Still, when you look at the cast of great characters from holden, amos to bobby and my favourite drummer (defo not in the last season enough) and many more, they could carry the show despite a story arc i didn't really care for The protomolecule arc (up to the establishment of the ring) was fantastic and some of the best sci fi on tvĪfter that it was still a quality show but pretty pale in comparison - the fact i always hated the character of naomi and even more her limp ass son didn't help cos now i've got that twat added to naomi that i couldn't stand seeing on screen and didn't give a flying fuck for any of their content, was hoping naomi would get offed at some point in earlier seasons and wanted the kid offed as soon as he showed up as a weekly character Not sure what happened there, i like to binge rather than do shit weekly so presumably i was waiting for it to air the last episode before downloading it all and totally fucking forgot about itĪnyway, was ok, tho tellingly the most interesting shit that i wanted to see was the short passage at the start of each episode about laconia Only to find it dropped fuckinga ages ago Well shit, been waiting for the final season for ages and thought fuck it, it's been ages, check wiki and see when that shit is dropping. I don't think this show is finished and will continue with another spin off series, or a direct companion or even a film or two. Non of the characters got butchered at the very least, and they left it open for what will almost certainly be more to come. I think that would be massively unkind to it, and at least it got the chance to be finalized after SyFy criminally cancelled it. Not the disaster of the last season of GoT by comparison by any stretch of the imagination. ![]() I think the show went off the boil when the intrigue of the Proto Molecule lore got replaced by the war between Marcos, the Belters and Earth. He just came across as a bit of a cartoon villain with zero gravitas or menace. Also, I think the actor playing Inaros was a bit shit. It'd be like starting up Mass Effect 2 and proceeding to the last 'Suicide Mission', which is sort of what the finale came across as being like a last level of a video game with a cheat code on so you couldn't lose. It just felt a little flat with no sense of the stakes. ![]() It felt like the last episode needed at least two previous to it to set that all up and build the tension. I agree with the consensus that the final series felt rushed. ![]()
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